I spent a lot of time on my response to him so I thought it would be blog worthy. There are folks out ther that distrust everything not "natural". Most are fairly ignorant. I appreciate it when someone sincerely researches and wrestles with the issues based on the facts. In general, not immunizing your kids is dumb for a lot of reasons. It is morally repugnant that we are using aborted tissue cell lines when I believe alternatives are available. I am not an expert in vaccine production, so it would be interesting to know why they are still using these 40 year old cell lines.
Thanks to your wife for researching this and stimulating my mind. I did not know these facts.
I found some stuff that will help you as you think about it attached below.
There is no doubt that aborted tissue is used in the production of the chicken Pox and Rubella (German Measles) vaccines. These are the only common vaccines that use human tissue. The human tissue does not come from continuous abortions. They are cell lines cultured and grown since the 60's from abortions at that time. In other words, they came from two aborted children, but none since. So called embryonic stem cells.
Here are some good details on the cell lines involved:
The Rubella Vaccine is also part of the MMR (measles mumps rubella) shot series.
Essentially there are alternatives to everything except Rubella and Varicella. Ironically, the Rubella vaccine is actually given mainly to protect the unborn from the catastrophic effects of Rubella on the fetus (that is the disease my sister came home with when my mom was pregnant with me). In other words, you protect the unborn by immunizing potential mothers, and by eliminating the disease from the surrounding population (this is called herd immunity).
I thought this site had some great reasoning
Medically, the so called cancer causing things in the vaccines are extremely minute. The site you sent me especially focuses on the "dangers of vaccine" Little time is spent on the danger of the diseases themselves. If we didn't vaccinate, lots of kids would die or be permanently brain damaged from various childhood illnesses. You have never seen someone paralyzed for life from polio I bet? Probably never seen a photo of an infant with Tetanus near death? I'll spare you the infants, but here are some adults. Search google images under "risus sardonicus" if you want to see some creepy stuff.
Those folks are holding that posture involuntarily thus the moniker "lockjaw"This whole site is dedicated to educating you about what these buggers can do. We forget this because we don't see these diseases much anymore because of immunization.
More pro vaccine propaganda
Go to the source and read these comprehensive studies.
Be sure to check all the vaccine safety tabs on that one. Vaccines are incredibly carefully studied.
Finally, check out a few articles from pro life medical organizations. The first is from Christian Medical Society. The second is a very detailed, well reasoned one from the Vatican (believe what you want about the catholics, they are very thoughtful on most issues)
I am really glad you are doing your homework. Continue to do so, and be sure to see the other side of the story. These diseases are nasty.
Hope this overwhelming amount of information helps. You have several hours of homework here.
I personally am leaning towards avoiding the Rubella and Varicella vaccines for our kids until something else is available. I do this for moral reasons and not safety concerns. I don't know AZ law on this, but it might keep your kids out of public school of you do so.
In my opinion it would be morally wrong to allow someone to die from rabies if I had a treatment for it even though the treatment was produced in a morally unacceptable fashion. I can't change the past. I would like to see a rabies alternative, however. The other vaccines on your list are very uncommon to use.
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