Very, very different rides despite all their commonalities.
Each one is set up perfectly for me. With the longer fork on the Zion, the resting HTA and bb height on both bikes is identical. The saddle is a little higher on the Zion due to the shorter cranks (5mm). The bars are relatively higher, but sag into the perfect position.
I hate to say this but: while I may not build the prettiest bikes in the world, they are dang near the best fitting, most functional rides out there....for me.
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